The Australian War Memorial has this to say introducing the bloody Gallipoli landings.
The Gallipoli campaign was intended to force Germany’s ally, Turkey, out of the war. It began as a naval campaign, with British battleships sent to attack Constantinople (now Istanbul). This failed when the warships were unable to force a way through the straits known as the Dardanelles. A third of the battleships were sunk or disabled on a single day, 18 March 1915. Could the AWM say any less?
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Seizing the Dardanelles was a worthwhile war aim which the Allies had the forces to achieve and had the entire March-April 1915 campaign been better administered from the top the war could likely have been shortened.
Yup, pity the Dardanelles campaign was cocked up. Like you say if it was successful it may have shortened the war.
I had a Great Uncle KIA in Jordan and my grand father got his backside severely shrapnelled at the beginning of the Passchendaele action.
Luckily he survived else I wouldn’t be here but my uncles body was never found.
A few months shortening of the war would have saved both of them.
The Dardanelles offensive was cocked up by having ships reconnoiter where the main fleet would go some days before the offensive. Unfortunately the Turks were not silly and put a few mines in the way when they correctly interpreted the ships as testing the area. (Its mentioned briefly here)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_operations_in_the_Dardanelles_Campaign#Battle_of_18_March
Also it seems that the forts on the Dardanelles were almost out of ammo and were ready to surrender. But the British and allies quit first, possibly by less than 60 mins from victory it appears.
Cheers
Roger
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Warwick,
Thank you for making the distinction between Turkey and the Ottoman Empire.
And while many Allied commanders failed miserably at Gallipoli it was the making of Monash – who started the war as part-time soldier. He ended the campaign as Brigadier General, I believe, and with a CB despite malicious rumors that he was a “German spy”. His parents were Prussians and the family spoke German at home.
And many forget that Indian Army and French forces were involved in the invasion. The latter were prominent on the eastern side of the Dardanelles.
The family has an ancestor who was in an Irish Regiment in India – also served in Crimea then New Zealand wars. We had an ancestor in the Boer War. Six relatives served in WWI from both sides of the family – 4 in Army and 2 Nurses all came home. In WWII members of both sides of the family served with the NZ 3rd Division in the Pacific in Fiji, New Caledonia and the Solomons and all came home. My wife lost her father on the destroyer HMS Ardent taking on the Scharnhorst off Narvik 8 June 1940. She had an Uncle who was a Marine on HMS Exeter lost in the Battle of the Java sea 1 March 1940. He survived a series of Japanese camps and settled in Perth where some ex POW’s were brought to regain what they could of their health.
I have family history photos arranged by decade – here is the 1940’s
www.warwickhughes.com/kiwialbum/1940/40index.html
and these are photogrophs of NZ casualties from the Weekly News 27 October 1943 – If we assume NZ was in WWII for 6 years and lost 11,671 dead then that is ~37 to 38 killed on average each week for the 312 weeks. Might cause us to think. The 1939 population was ~1.6Million.
www.warwickhughes.com/kiwialbum/1940/cas.gif
This is an interesting ABC article mentioning two guys currently serving in Australian forces both with Turkish ancestry.
www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-25/unique-turkish-family-connection-to-gallipoli-on-anzac-day/9694022
This Whaleoil blog has an interesting account of the disastrous first day at the Gallipoli landings.
www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/04/the-landing-at-anzac/
So officers on the ground wanted to pullout then. Needs a map.
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