Exactly why wind power is too often useless

After posting the submission by Tony from Oz re Queensland Govt plans for 50% renewables by 2030 – I wondered what NemWatch shows now. The chart below shows next to zero effective wind across Tasmania, South Australia, Victoria and New South Wales.

So in our future renewables nirvana what would we do at times like now? Turn off most of Australia and all just sit around waiting for wind. Or do we keep sufficient fossil fuel powered generators waiting around to substitute for wind when required? Who pays for that? We will pay have no doubt. Vote 1ALA and always put Greens last.

7 thoughts on “Exactly why wind power is too often useless”

  1. The wind power for Tas+SA+Vic+NSW is lower now at 1.10 (135MW) than when you posted 10am (142MW).

  2. Warwick, I agree but for the senate leave out the “Greens” altogether (whether above or below the line) so that they can not claim any electoral money. For the House of Reps put them last.

  3. This page suggests only 1stPref votes count cementafriend

    www.aec.gov.au/parties_and_representatives/public_funding/index.htm

    Entitlement to election funding
    Quote –
    A candidate or Senate group is eligible for election funding if they obtain at least 4% of the first preference vote in the division or the state or territory they contested. The amount to be paid is calculated by multiplying the number of votes obtained by the current election funding rate. This rate is indexed every six months to increases in the Consumer Price Index.

  4. Just seen this in an industry newsletter

    THE cost of the failure of the Basslink cable to the Tasmanian economy has been estimated at around $560 million so far, far more than the state government’s more conservative numbers.

    Market analyst EnergyQuest said the outage in the cable between Tasmania and the mainland, which started before Christmas and is unlikely to be fixed until the end of June, saw quarter-on-quarter average power prices on the Apple Isle increase by more than 350% in the March period to $176.92 per megawatt hour.

    EnergyQuest principle Dr Graeme Bethune said that during the three month period, the state’s peak power price soared more than 500% to $257.36/MWh.

    “The estimates do not take into account the economic cost of lost production by the larger industrial gas users in Tasmania.”

    “The Tasmanian situation would have been even worse without the back-up of Victorian gas supplies from Longford via the Tasmanian Gas Pipeline.”

    “Production from the ExxonMobil/BHP Billiton plant at Longford in Gippsland “roared ahead”, increasing by 66% in the March quarter to 64.2 petajoules as it met increased demand not just from Melbourne and NSW but the stricken Tasmanian energy network. “

  5. I have been posting on Tasmania Alan search Tasmania underneath my Categories.
    Here is latest
    Tasmanian electricity crisis explained day by day
    www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=4353
    There are two charts – the first of Tasmanian daily electricity generation plus imports/exports and demand from 1 Nov 2015 to 10 Mar 2016.
    The second is a detailed look across the period of the Basslink failure using 5 minute data for seven days 15 to 21 Dec 2015.
    I have followed the media on the Basslink crisis and nobody has addressed the issue of why –
    In mid Dec 15 early in the summer dry season –
    after a second wet season with low rainfall –
    and at a time of very low and falling dam levels –
    with debt & liabilities ~between 1 & $2Billion –
    Hydro felt compelled to suddenly start intermittent exports in mid Dec 2015 –
    which required them to deplete dam levels even faster –
    with exports running at times very near the max MW rating for Basslink –
    which in a few days lead to the Basslink failure.
    I wonder what net money Hydro/TasGovt hoped to make from those exports?
    Presumably the risk of crashing Basslink was little considered.
    Those to me are key questions that I have not seen addressed.

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