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Six members of the EU resist moves to 40% emissions cut by 2030

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The Polish PM says “…she would block any move that would increase energy bills for Polish consumers.” Poland’s economy is heavily reliant on coal as an energy source.
Poland’s largest opposition party Law and Justice (PiS) says it would support a veto by Prime Minister Kopacz on climate change in Brussels next week if the move harmed the Polish economy.
Ministers from the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria and Romania said in a joint statement at a so-called Visegrad Group (V4+2) summit in Bratislava that “the introduction of any legally binding renewable energy and Germany is increasing electricity generation from brown coal – the BBC says – Germany’s green dreams meet harsh reality. It is hard to see the EU succeeding with a 40% emissions reduction target at the Bonn Climate Conference this week.
The Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has some supporters in Europe for his view that “coal is good for humanity”.

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    Jeff Conlon on The Air Vent asked: “So you are stating that your idea is not new and are of the belief that Loshmidt had the right answer correct?”

    To this I replied:

    The fact that the temperature gradient forms autonomously at the molecular level (without any specific need for upward convection) was first explained in the 19th century, and has never been correctly rebuked. But this “gravito-thermal effect” has been overlooked by James Hansen et al. Hence 255K is not the right “starting point” and there is not “33 degrees of warming” but more like 10 to 12 degrees of cooling by radiating molecules, mostly water vapour of course, because the radiating properties of these molecules have a temperature levelling effect working against the gravitationally-induced temperature gradient that is not due to any lapsing process..

    But what has not been explained prior to the 21st century is how the necessary energy transfers over the sloping thermal profile just like new rain water falling on a small section of a lake spreads out evenly over the whole lake. This is what happens (and must happen) in planetary tropospheres, and it happens because the Second Law of Thermodynamics is all about thermodynamic equilibrium evolving. Thermodynamic equilibrium has a density gradient (because there must be more kinetic energy per molecule at lower altitudes) and that density gradient thus has a temperature gradient.

    Thermodynamic equilibrium is what it says – an equilibrium state just as much as is mechanical equilibrium which keeps the surface of a lake more-or-less following the curvature of the Earth. Gravity spreads new rain water over the lake, raising the level all around the lake. Likewise, new thermal energy absorbed in a planet’s upper troposphere or elsewhere (such as in and above clouds) spreads out in all accessible directions by convection, where I use the term to mean both diffusion and advection in accord with normal usage in physics. And that’s how the required energy gets down to the base of the Uranus troposphere to maintain temperatures hotter than Earth’s surface. Likewise on Venus and likewise on Earth because solar radiation directly to the surface is nowhere near sufficient and we would freeze on cloudy days if this downward convection were not a reality.

     

    Moderator:

    This comment is being posted on about six other blogs as I don’t like wasting my time on just one blog, unless a blog owner runs an article on the content of my book and agrees not to delete any of my comments replying to comments on that thread. I may do likewise with any future such questions and answers in the interests of disseminating correct physics and gradually wearing down the greatest error ever made since the flat Earth garbage.

     

  3. Both the Czech Republic and Poland have had the dubious joy of lots of wind energy from Germany, because the distribution network in Germany cannot channel enough power to the south where it is wanted. Both countries are installing phase shifting transformers so they can stop surges of electricity disrupting their Nuclear (Czech) or black coal (Poland) generators.
    Neither wants to change from cheap stable supply to an expensive, variable and sometimes non existent supply.

    Slovakia has been the beneficiary of the rising cost of electricity in Germany as several large companies have set up factories there, in place of ones in Germany. Probably the same applies for Hungary. Bulgaria and Romania certainly don’t want high electricity costs retarding their economic growth.

    The Germans are certainly having second thoughts about it, and will likely agree (in private). That leaves only Sweden and France mad enough to want to keep going towards the edge of the cliff.

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