Comments on Prof Patrick Troy's  full page article Canberra Times Monday 31 March 2008
I refer to the 60  paragraphs which make up the article.

Para 1  The water supply system HAS met demand for many decades and with dam levels above 45% at the end of summer the situation is not exactly wrist-slashingly critical.
I am yet to find evidence re catchment yields and catchment vegetation management.  Improving catchment yields by managing vegetation is by far the cheapest way to augment supplies. Surely any prudent water manager would have been doing exactly this from 2001.
Agree there is an urgent need to re-examine Canberra's water services systems but mainly because of  wrong directions ACTEW is taking towards WPP and at the same time sidelining the Tennent Dam option and taking years to plan enhancing the Cotter.

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3     I say the traditional "predict and provide" model is fine if it is done well, but Govt has NOT done this efficiently.   The last dam at Googong was built in 1977, over 30 years ago, what was the ACT population and water demand at that time.   Has anybody got documents showing the planning assumptions at the time the  Googong Dam was built ?

4   I am puzzled as to  what are "socio-cultural drivers of demand"  ?

5   If ACTEW keeps ignoring readily available dam water, wasting dam water on excess env flows and building hyper-expensive WPP, then we have not seen expensive water yet.

6   It has exposed poor planning and is inducing an irrational response by most Australian Govts.

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9   Rain is naturally highly variable but with proper planning this is no problem, dams have been hugely successful for centuries in storing water.  Canberra rain post 2001 has simply returned to pre 1945 levels, see graphic of Uriarra composite rainfall history 1887-2007

10   As I say in 9, rain trends since 2001 have only returned to pre 1945 levels in a cyclic way.  There is no evidence of a decline from historic levels to some "all time low", as the media lead us to believe by years of peddling  "worst drought ever" claims.  Professor Troy correctly puts his finger on ACT population / demand increases and we must remember here that Googong Dam was planned over 30 years ago.  It was built in 1977 and I am searching for the planning assumptions current at the time it was built.  So I am saying, in contrast to Professor Troy, that we are NOT in a climate crisis but we ARE in a crisis of ineffective planning.  ACT Govt water managers have lived off the fat of  the Googong Dam for years and have neglected to augment the system in line with population and demand. Even now, over half a decade into this water "crisis",  cost effective dam sources are being ignored, eg Tennent and enlarged Cotter, in favour of a hyper-expensive, politically fashionable WPP which will not produce much water anyway .

11   Consideration of  health and primary hygiene aspects are still there.

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13   No Professor, it is because most Australian do not want to live jammed up against neighbours in multi-dwelling hi-rise blocks.

14   Not a special factor at all, other Australian cities are also dominated by independent houses on their own garden blocks.  Canberra is just a bit more sprawled out.

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16   We should still sensibly increase supply because it would take a long time to "double plumb" homes to facilitate grey-water resuse, if indeed that was good policy.

17   Media hysteria about drought has done that to excess for over 5 years now.

18   Peddling CSIRO doomster climate model fairy-stories increasingly to State Govts and in the media is not a basis for sound planning.

19   Home owners installing rainwater tanks and grey water tanks will mostly find it is very expensive compared to current ACTEW water prices.  A report by Marsden Jacob Associates commissioned by the National Water Commission - April 2007  The cost-effectiveness of rainwater tanks in urban Australia (PDF 498KB) (look for download under Waterlines) shows that with Canberra rainfall, rainwater tanks are a very very expensive option.  More costly than seawater desalination.  People thinking about installing rainwater tanks should check the costs and benefits very carefully. 
On the issue of introducing the mass recycling of grey water into households, I am yet to find a woman who does not object to grey water smells and ditto re agreeing for the use of grey water to flush her toilet.    I think many home owners would not be able to sustain safe management of grey water.


20   I do not understand how there can be, "significant savings in dwellings' plumbing"   

21   If useful new technologies are available lets use them.

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23   It has been the backbone of HUGE improvements in public health over centuries.

24   Dual flush toilets were introduced in Victoria by John Cain circa 1990. So they are nothing new.

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26  Phew, so we can shower in clean water.

27   Agree with price for essential water at a base level.

28   No indication of what these prices will be.  The final arbiters of all this will be water consumers who are voters and as they realize they have been fed a load of exaggerations re climate change, it will be up to them as to who they vote for.

29   There is a serious issue here that maybe Professor Troy has not given sufficient thought to.   German experience is that changes to the volume and make up of sewage can cause problems in transport and treatment that are expensive to rectify.   Population decreases in parts of Germany, particularly post 1990 have lead to very expensive re-engineering of  sewerage systems.

30   Perhaps it would be cheaper for Govt to collect some of the stormwater runoff and treat for the water supply system rather than building the WPP.  If Perth is a guide, stormwater in pipes could total half of Canberra's water consumption.

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32   Really detailed stuff but as I said in 19, I am yet to find a woman who does not object to grey water smells and ditto re agreeing for the use of grey water to flush her toilet.

33   I say all at great expense, far better to sensibly augment supply, along with discouraging waste.

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35   See 29,   Reducing the water driving sewage flow, could well cause engineering problems, if German experience is any guide.

36   Ditto 35 and 29.

37   Professor Troy may have a good point here, it would need engineering assessment.  Could stormwater be collected in Scrivener Dam overflows ?  See 30 above.

38   Lots of different approaches.

39   Need engineering costing and assess.

40    It sounds to me as though the more complex citywide system could be more prone to breakdowns.   I also think the more complex double plumbing being prescribed for households would leave them exposed to breakdowns and failures of the expensive and complex systems.

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42   All at huge expense, who will pay for retro-fitting ?

43   Sounds like more Govt propaganda will be required.

44   So we now have two parallel sewerage systems, who will pay for this massive duplication of engineering works across this sprawling city ?  Pie in the sky I think.

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46   People are right to be concerned.  Two centuries of massively successful improvements in public health are based on SEPARATING sewage from potable water supply.   Why overturn this principle  for no good reason ?

47   Correct

48   Exactly

49   OK  But this is EXACTLY the path ACTEW are on by building a demonstration WPP.   Have no fear, there will be no stopping the full sized  WPP unless Canberrans make their voices heard loud.

50   For sure, mucho drafting of new regulations.

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54    I am puzzled that "predict and provide" should be referred to in a pejorative sense.   I am sure many people would say that Govt and ACTEW have not  "predicted and provided" well enough.

55  Dams and so called "big engineering" solutions  have worked marvellously well for centuries, no need yet for such expensive and radical changes as Professor Troy is proposing.

56   Correct.

57   Introducing greywater use in homes and businesses  will take much careful planning and education.  Most householders could not manage greywater safely.

58   ACTEW prices would have to be racked up enormously to force installation of household rainwater tanks.  Far better and cheaper for consumers to pay ACTEW to enhance or build another dam to ensure water supply at a reasonable cost.

59   Better be careful not to reduce sewage flows too much or the system might not work as planned, see 29 and 35.

60   A step back 200 years would be hugely expensive and carry the risk of negative health impacts.